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Q: 2023/24 Hopes & aspirations for this season
a. As Champions of Europe there's no reason we shouldn't be pushing for a top 7 spot & a run in the Cups
24%
  
b. Last season was a trophy winning one and there's only one way to go after that, I expect a dull mid table bore fest of a season
17%
  
c. Buy some f***ing players or we're in a battle to stay up & that's as good as it gets
18%
  
d. Moyes out
37%
  
e. New season you say, woohoo time to get the new kit and wear it it to the pub for all the big games, the wags down there call me Mr West Ham
3%
  



Northern Sold 12:23 Sun Oct 8
Jimmy Greaves was SHIT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgoCYft4eMw

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ted fenton 12:50 Mon Oct 9
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Northern Sold 12:00 Mon Oct 9

Takashi Miike 12:01 Mon Oct 9
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hahahaha

Northern Sold 12:00 Mon Oct 9
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, 9:47 Sun Oct 8
Re: Jimmy Greaves was SHIT
I think that players are far better physically conditioned than in yesteryear. Having watched top level football in the UK for many years It is my opinion that the average technical standard of the players we produce is superior to that of the past.



Hmmm...

Jordan `I can't run properly' Henderson OR Glenn Hoddle

Jake `Who??' Livermore OR Trevor Brooking

Scrappy Doo Sterling OR Paul Gascoigne

Dele Alli Bongo OR Martin Peters


Yeah... absolute blessed nowadays

1chop 12:59 Mon Oct 9
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icwhs 3:57 Sun Oct 8

I think shirt numbers used to be determined by what position they were playing that game as opposed to players having a choice. I've seen some videos on youtube of Bobby in 12, Brooking in 7, Bonds in 2 and Hurst in 8 a few times too.

boleynkid 11:23 Sun Oct 8
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lol comma I'm sorrier than you that I'm "getting on a bit". Far from past it though and probably a similar age to many on here.

Actually speak to many people of my age and you will find there are no regrets as we tend to think we have seen the best of times. Lots of things have changed, some for the better but many for the worse.

Still enjoy my football but, in my opinion, it isn't as good. If I had to say why I would say because there is not as much action. The build up is far too slow nowadays.

gph 11:07 Sun Oct 8
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*in to*

gph 11:07 Sun Oct 8
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Modern professional strikers will never know the joy of a back pass getting stuck in the mud, letting them into score

, 11:04 Sun Oct 8
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boleynkid, sorry old timer I did not realise that you were getting on a bit.

boleynkid 10:24 Sun Oct 8
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Chances are comma that I have watched football in this country far longer than yourself.

I do accept, to a degree, that the players, overall, have a greater technical ability than the players of yesteryear (certainly the further back you go) but that doesn't make them better footballers. The likes of Best, Bowles, Currie, Marsh, Brooking, Di Canio etc etc were technically brilliant anyway so they would thrive in whatever era they played but, as mentioned, the description of the modern footballer being more like an athlete is correct and their bodies would not have coped with the rigours of playing at the top level back then.

Clubs would go an entire season with just 16 players or so. The modern footballer could just not do it. Proof of why it is wrong to compare eras.

Mex Martillo 10:19 Sun Oct 8
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Northern what are you on? You cannot change the past, Greaves was a great player.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KTtpd07cIA8

Looking at that he scored a lot of volies in very shitty muddy conditions, very impressive.

Always surprises me how crap the pitches were when I see these old videos. Crazy thing is I went to those games and do not remember that at all. Penalty areas were a mud field by the end of the season.

Takashi Miike 10:02 Sun Oct 8
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British or foreign, it still applies

Far Cough 9:59 Sun Oct 8
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I assumed we were talking about English or British players?

Yeah we have the Payets and C Ronaldos

Takashi Miike 9:54 Sun Oct 8
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exactly. the dearth of talent is so extreme that shit like pogba's going for €90m. there's never been so little truly great players in the game

Far Cough 9:51 Sun Oct 8
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and Rodney Marsh*

Far Cough 9:50 Sun Oct 8
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Really? why are there no Georgie Bests, Tony Curries or Robin Fridays around these days?

Players are fucking robots now, athletically superior to yesterday but not technically

, 9:47 Sun Oct 8
Re: Jimmy Greaves was SHIT
I think that players are far better physically conditioned than in yesteryear. Having watched top level football in the UK for many years It is my opinion that the average technical standard of the players we produce is superior to that of the past.

Takashi Miike 9:43 Sun Oct 8
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the players now are better athletes but that's it. years ago players were far superior technically and in far greater number

boleynkid 9:17 Sun Oct 8
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I think we will have to respectfully disagree on this one comma.

As I say, in my opinion, you shouldn't compare players/standards of today v previous years (going back too far anyway)....everything's relative.

Players around in the 90's would have included the likes of Scholes, Shearer, Beckham, Rio, Bergkamp etc

, 9:03 Sun Oct 8
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I don't think that I'm unique in thinking the PL has a higher standard than the old first division. In fact I think that the PL now has a higher standard than twenty years ago.

boleynkid 8:49 Sun Oct 8
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Not correct comma.

For a start you cannot/should not compare players of today against those of another era. Different playing surfaces etc etc.

, 7:05 Sun Oct 8
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What people seem not to take on board is that the standard in the PL is a step change higher than the old first division back in the sixties. Aside from the likes of Moore, Hurst Peters the rest of our usual elevens back then would be struggle to hold their own in any of today's lower order PL teams.

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